We have been talking about late term abortions recently because of Dr. Tillers assassination on May 31. I say assassination because that is what it was. It was a needless death – even serial killers like Tiller deserve better than that.
However, the gushing over this mass murderer has been a bit over the top. Only his son seemed to understand the true reality to what is father may be facing now:
His son, Maury, said the manner of his father’s death resulted in an unimaginable outpouring of love and support for the family.
But he added: "I struggle with the manner he was welcomed into heaven."
How sad that his son believes that. Perhaps Tiller should have kept his kids away from Church so they wouldn’t have known to think like that.
Here is what was said at the funeral:
He also was remembered for his generosity and sense of humor.
"Dear God, get heaven ready, because Mr. Enthusiasm is coming," said Larry Borcherding, of Overland Park, who first met Tiller a half-century ago when both were students at the University of Kansas. "Heaven will never be the same. It will be a better, better place with George in it."
Do these people understand what heaven is?
Isaiah 60:11-12
Revelations 21:25-27
Luke 16:19-31
1 Corinthians 3:10-15
Matthew 25:31-46
Just to name a few versus in the bible.
Even if you murder for self defense, you will still be judged on that murder. As seen in 1 Corinthians 3:16-18 “Do you not know that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy that person; for the temple of God, which you are, is holy.”
I only have proof of late term abortions performed during a 10 year period in Kansas. Since Tiller was the only one in Kansas that performed abortions beyond 21 weeks, we can only assumed he performed them all. This means he aborted 5,057 babies over the gestational age of 21 weeks in that 10 year period. That is almost 10 babies every week. Babies that had no medical reasons to die. 99.9% of those abortions were for “health of the mother”. There is a section on the Kansas questionnaire that all abortionist must fill out and well under 1% of the time gross fetal anomaly is checked off. He murdered these babies – there is no other way to look at it. It wasn’t to benefit the mothers health – why would a mother travel to an abortionists clinic, where there is minimal emergency medical help, when she can go to any hospital, including Catholic, and have the abortion if her life/health is in severe danger and cannot wait until the fetus is viable. The lies the “choice” crowd keep saying is ridiculous and around 10,000 babies died because of it in 2005. That is 192 babies over the gestational age of 21 weeks aborted every week in just one year.
I keep going beyond the 20 weeks mark because that is when it is acceptable to the choice crowd to say that a fetus can feel pain. Many also accept at this point is when the so-called personhood belief miraculously appears. Where is the outrage for all those deaths?
Of course there will be no outrage, only admiration towards a mass murderer. He did not help women, he preyed on them. He was not a savior for women’s health, he was the parasite that sucked the life out of many women.
His death means nothing. Unborn babies are in just as much danger of being aborted today as they were on May 30.
And now we have this:
A new test to reveal the gender of a fetus in early pregnancy has sparked a row over whether it will lead to sex-selection abortions.
The American-designed IntelliGender test kit, which can be used from eight weeks after conception, went on sale in Australia last month. Its Australian distributor hopes to launch it in New Zealand within a fortnight.
The kits are claimed to be 90 per cent accurate, but because patents have not yet been issued, the maker will not reveal the supporting data or the science of how they work.
The majority of babies aborted because of sex selection are female. It is the women that wanted abortion and now it will be the women that are eliminated by abortions. What goes around comes around – and it is the children that are paying the price of our selfishness.
Hat Tip: Kristi
That’s really sad. I know the guy loved his dad cause of course and we don’t pick our parents, but to truly believe that he is in HEAVEN?! I just don’t think so. Obviously I can’t know cause I’m not dead or in heaven either, but I just don’t believe that’s where Tiller his.
You’re right. Tiller isn’t in heaven.
He’s dead. In the ground. Rotting. Just like everybody else.
Misty a coach who,
Trained aquatic Pokemon.
Was Ash’s teaser.
All the pretty words.. all the outrage over Dr Tillers death.. all the massive attemtps to call this man a martyr.. a saint.. all of that
will not matter at judgement.
Maybe God will show him some mercy… ya know.. the kind he didnt show to thousands of babies.
Elizabeth,
If he is, I don’t want to go. Maybe I can live FOREVER in Malta. I mean, IF, and that’s a big IF, he had a major conversion as that bullet was flying towards him, he MIGHT have squeaked by…but what are the odds? Even if he’ll make it some day, he’d be in purgatory for a long, long, long, long time. By then, I might be able to deal with seeing him. God forgive me. I’m really struggling with this one. Wouldn’t it be ironic if my SERIOUS dislike of this man kept me OUT of heaven, while his last minute conversion got him in???
MK,
I think that would be the very definition of irony. You and my mom could keep each other company though! She is very vocal about her SERIOUS dislike for him. You know the whole “He got what he deserved, I don’t care he’s dead” kinda stuff. I’m like “Mooooom, God doesn’t like that” Lol.
I know, the right thing to do would be praying for mercy on his soul
But, I havent gone there… yet.
well, I’ve uttered the words, but my heart ain’t in it…I’m honestly working on it…but it’s really hard. He’s kind of the poster child for the abortion industry. Every feeling, every hurt, every sickening thought can be put in a “bottle” and labeled George Tiller. But IF there was a chance, I do, I really do, hope he went for it. I mean if he does get into heaven, it won’t be the same man that was here on earth, and I’d be okay with that.
Now Obama is a different story….kidding, I’m kidding!
MK… HAHAHHAHA
alright.. just said a Hail Mary for him
It’s strange. I’ve actually found it easier to pray for him now than I did when he was alive. I always prayed for his conversion, but never really him. Does that make sense? Just the thought that someone – anyone – can’t be with God just breaks my heart. We are all still God’s children and no matter how far into evil we fall He still loves us – as any good Father would.
I feel so bad for Tiller’s son though. I wouldn’t have second thoughts about my Dad going to heaven – no child should have to have those thoughts.
Here is another strange thought that keeps going through my head – Would the children that he aborted want him with them in heaven?
Kristi –
I’ve been saying a lot of Hail Mary’s recently!
Ugh…. Saint Valerie… I never ever prayed for Dr Tiller.
Alright I will say a Hail Mary again for “Mr Enthusiasm”….and this time I will try to mean it.
Kristi -
You’re questioning my saintism? I did marry Stu, ya know? Shouldn’t that automatically put me in the “saint” category?
He just put my whoppers candy on the very top shelf in the kitchen! I had to get a chair to get my candy! AND I didn’t kill him!
Val…. you could be described as a saint and/or off your rocker for the Stu thing.
Although… the cute kids make up for the lapse in your judgement.
Val,
I think so. I think all those babies are so pure, and so conformed to the heart of Jesus, that they want everyone in heaven with them. Perhaps that is just wishful thinking on my part, but it’s what I believe. And I hope Tiller made/makes it – after a good turn in purgatory, of course.
“I think so. I think all those babies are so pure, and so conformed to the heart of Jesus, that they want everyone in heaven with them.”
that is right DeeL.
Personally I just can’t get over that he a) went to church b) could somehow think he was “right with God” and c) that there was a church that accepted him. Could you imagine going to the same church as Tiller?
As for praying for him… All that I can do is hope God has mercy on his soul… but that is a reactionary thought, not a real want. I feel sorry for the family, they have to live with a life paid for in the blood of children. That is something I don’t think I could live with… To love a person who mercilously killed children.
I have a picture on my son right after he was born and the thought that somebody could murderer a child just like him is unimaginable to me. My son was born at 31 weeks (9 weeks early)….
It appears that many or most killers, rapist, burglars, thieves, pickpockets, are always gettin into heaven.
Soo, who is in hell? Maybe the movie, The Unforgiven, answers the question.
Which brings up the old question.
If Lenin admitted he was doing the devil’s work, , does he go to heaven?. A matter of “saving grace” outdoing your “works of the evil One”.
Behind every atheist, is a creator that lacked a wish. The wish to be with their mother and father, children, family, friends, lover for eternity. In essence, to be with them after they die.
That a atheist may write that they are more loving and caring since death produces a total end of existence, they lack the words, and hope to “see you one more time in the existence based on no time….. eternity”.
If they do utter such a phrase, they have become instant hypocrites to their own words; He’s dead. In the ground. Rotting. Just like everybody else.
Stu,
The longing for God is imprinted on our hearts, unfortunately, some people never recognize it for what it is and try to satisfy it with temporal pleasures. The good news is that Tiller did indeed recognize that he needed God to fill that longing. That he knew this offers better hope that he did repent in the last moments of his tragic, violence filled life. As for the church accepting him, well, would it really be much of a church if it didn’t? All Christian churches are part of the Body of Christ, fractured as it may be at this moment in time. Can you imagine Jesus turning away someone who was seeking him, no matter how deficient he was at recognizing him?
It is very difficult to like George Tiller, and because “liking” is an emotional response to subjective attributes, we are not responsible for that attitude. Love, however, is not an emotional reaction, it is an act of the will, which desires the highest good for another person. As difficult as it is, to attain heaven ourselves, we must make every effort to love George Tiller. Jesus boiled his entire mission down to the commandment to love. Any refusal to love Tiller is a rejection of that commandment and is sin.
God hates all sin, and loves all genuine repentence. There is no relativism in the heart and mind of God. That is a human phenomenon created to make us feel better about ourselves, in relation to others, and to mitigate our responsibility toward each other. We all sin. Every one of us is totally dependent on the mercy of God. The fact that Tiller (Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot…) could very well be in heaven should offer us great hope and trust that God is, indeed, loving and merciful.